COMPUTING

OPINION
SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality

Print Version
E-Mail Article
Reprints

Line-by-line replacement won't work in the SCO-vs.-IBM scenario. This is because the ideas that surround the product are also protected. Were you to read the original AT&T license, which I did, you would find that it anticipated things like this and, if it is enforceable, protects against it.


Better Email Security Just Got A Whole Lot Easier. And Cheaper. Introducing Security Software As A Service From Webroot. Free 14-Day Trial.

The other day I was asked what the odds were that SCO would win against IBM (NYSE: IBM) Latest News about IBM. On the basis of how the two parties were behaving, I offered a range of between 55 and 65 percent. I've spent a lot of my life watching litigation, and I believe that you can better tell the outcome by trying to determine what the parties believe and how believable they are than if you just try to dig through their rhetoric.

The pleadings generally amount to incredibly detailed "they did this, they did that" kinds of arguments, and it becomes difficult to call a winner until you actually see what shows up in court and how the judge and jury react.

SCO and its legal team continue to bet the farm that they will win, and IBM appears to be trying to limit its risk. Also, IBM doesn't have complete control of its own side, especially with a massive amount of well-wishers who might actually be making it more difficult for IBM to win. For example, who do you think really benefits from a denial-of-service attack on SCO?

One of the strongest indications I have that SCO might win is that several of the financial analyst groups who work with me, after reviewing the SCO submissions, have concluded that SCO might actually have the advantage. These firms are relatively unbiased and, generally, if they do have bias, it would typically favor a company like IBM with which they have substantial interest as opposed to a company like SCO with which they don't.

Rhetoric Lacks Reality

I clearly have become fascinated with the rhetoric coming out of the open-source community. It appears to me that a lot of people believe the U.S. legal system is based on what people outside of that system believe -- or that simply because something should be the case is enough to ensure that it will be. Unfortunately, life and litigation generally don't work that way.

Have you ever watched a divorce either between marriage partners or between business partners? From the outside, it can look like the participants were suddenly possessed by evil spirits or aliens. This is because during the early phases of a relationship, when people are working together, they tend to ignore the other person's shortcomings and talk about how wonderful they are.

Once the relationship fails, however, the other person is often presented as if they were Satan spawn with no redeemable qualities at all. So it has seemed with SCO. The company started off as friendly underdog Caldera going after Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) Free Trial. Security Software As A Service From Webroot. Latest News about Microsoft. Now the company is nasty little SCO going after Linux. As far as I can tell, it really is the same company.

When the litigation first started, I personally had little interest in Linux and open source Latest News about open source, even though I had covered it on and off for well over a decade. While it was clear the movement had engaged others, it hadn't yet engaged me. However, a few months ago, this changed because I started to get disturbing e-mail from people I had previously respected. When I tried to point out that SCO might actually be in the right, suddenly the attacks shifted to me in a very personal way in an apparent attempt to shut me up.

At the time, I wasn't siding with SCO, I was just pointing out that the company's position might have merit, and that I knew some of the folks and they weren't as evil as people seemed to think. I'm an analyst; this was analysis.

Software Theft Benefit

SCO was simply saying that IBM had taken SCO's intellectual property and was giving it away to the open-source community. Given my experience with cases like this, it wasn't unusual that a big company was doing something like this. I'd seen it before.

What seemed to be different was that the open-source community seemed collectively to say, "Theft is okay as long as we benefit." SCO was suddenly painted as evil, referred to in terms that implied it was incompetent, greedy and came from questionable parentage. The company's Web site was attacked and its executives threatened. And a lot of people who should have known better seemed to think this was okay and that SCO was getting what it deserved for being on the wrong side.

Ever watch people who have been caught stealing something defend themselves? They say things like, "I found it," "Someone else gave it to me," "It wasn't yours to begin with" and, "I have as much right to it as you do." In the open-source rhetoric that followed the SCO lawsuit announcement, I saw a tremendous amount of similarity to this behavior.

So, what if the SCO folks are not evil incarnate and their stuff was stolen? Wouldn't that make them the victim, and is it really okay to attack the victim if your side benefits? Where do you draw the line between good and evil?

One belief I found to be particularly interesting was that you could get out from under this problem by simply rewriting the sections of a software product that were in violation. Some people evidently think that if you were caught with a line-by-line copy of someone else's software product, all you would have to do is rewrite the offending lines and you could continue to sell the result.

Rewriting the Rules

To extend the example to the book-publishing world, some open-source proponents have argued that if you started with Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, you could end up with Parry Hotter and the Wizard's Rock and be just fine. But this sort of line-by-line replacement won't work because the ideas that surround the product are also protected.

Were you to read the original AT&T license, which I did, you would find that it anticipated things like this and, if it is enforceable, protects against it. Let's pretend for a moment that we live in a country where you have the right to protect what is yours, regardless of whether you built it or, like SCO, bought it.

Let's also pretend that, when there is a doubt about ownership, you have the right to prove that ownership and that no group of vigilantes or large companies has the right to force you to give up what you can prove is yours, or take away your right to try. Let's pretend that people in general in this mystical land of the free have the right to have opinions different from yours without fear of personal physical or verbal attack.

I actually think I live in a place like this, so it would be nice if more open-source software folk joined me here.


Rob Enderle, a TechNewsWorld columnist, is the Principal Analyst for the Enderle Group, a company founded on the concept of providing a unique perspective on personal technology products and trends.

Social Networking Toolbox:
Talkback: Join the Discussion.
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
joeblah
Posted 2003-11-19
But if what your saying is true about having ownership of an idea, then couldn't IBM sue clone ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
jkondis
Posted 2003-11-10
Is it just me, or is there a clear difference between the writing styles in the ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
jgoemat
Posted 2003-09-12
Unbiased article? Give me a break... What no one seems to be thinking about is SCO trying to ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
Caine
Posted 2003-09-17
How's this for an analogy, going with someone's gangster ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
MurrayB
Posted 2003-09-11
Thank you Mr. Enderle for providing an all too rare balanced view of this situation. Some IT ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-12
'Thank you Mr. Enderle for providing an all too rare balanced view of this situation. Some IT ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
JohnOz
Posted 2003-09-11
While I agree that there are a number of Open Source proponents out there with blinders on and ...
This is amusing
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-10
Since http://www.sco.com has linked this story from their main page, somebody coincidentally ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
vasarik
Posted 2003-09-10
This is by far the best unbiased analysis I have seen of the situation so ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-09
"It's about time someone has given a real and logical overview of the SCO Wars. I have had ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
captwatto
Posted 2003-09-08
It's about time someone has given a real and logical overview of the SCO Wars. I have had many ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
imorse
Posted 2003-09-07
Rob, You miss the point. There are pragmatic open source types like myself who believe that ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
tom1000000
Posted 2003-09-05
Mr Rob ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
larsB
Posted 2003-09-04
Hello ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
nene
Posted 2003-09-03
I'm from Germany, so maybe the difference within the legal systems between the US and Germany ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
kjelland
Posted 2003-09-03
Hi ...
Patents, evidence and conlusion?
LinuxCrunchie
Posted 2003-09-03
The ideas and concepts you're referring to are called patents. SCO has none of those (at least ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
tungtung
Posted 2003-09-03
Dear ...
What theft?
flatlander03
Posted 2003-09-03
SCO hasn't proved that any theft has occurred. Any code that they've shown off has either been ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
dsettanni
Posted 2003-09-03
A careful analysis will point out that the AT&T license that protects against the kind of ...
There WAS no DDOS of attack
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
The supposed DDOS attack has taken place only during off hours: i.e. on the weekends and during ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
exposeu
Posted 2003-09-03
A few ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
nobby69
Posted 2003-09-03
I don't think the harry potter analogy is quite right. Here's a better ...
story founders on the word "seems"
hipparchus
Posted 2003-09-03
There are many of us (linuxen) who have never said it is ok to steal. However, if someone says ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
dclayton2
Posted 2003-09-03
I imagined that SCO might have some wierd strategy and now we know. In some alternate reality ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
sinp
Posted 2003-09-03
So approximately 200 lines were copied from system V to linux and than there are some million ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
sinp
Posted 2003-09-04
Aha, seems like IBM & lines copied ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
jstorch
Posted 2003-09-03
Your analogy to Harry Potter is flawed. We're certainly not talking about an entire volume ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
JIMMYDORSEY
Posted 2003-09-03
You have made me think, and in all reality when it comes to court and heaven forbid, a jury of ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
Your last comment is the most interesting, because regardless of the outcome this case will ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
JohnOz
Posted 2003-09-11
What judges like even less than being blasted is people who try their case in the press. Do you ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
> Your last comment is the most interesting, ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
stend
Posted 2003-09-04
> in breaking this license IBM may be opening ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
nabet
Posted 2003-09-03
All of what you've said here is pure unsupported speculation. You seem to think SCO will win ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
matE1
Posted 2003-09-03
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
joeklein
Posted 2003-09-03
First of all, why are financial analysts swaying your opinion on a LEGAL case? There is plenty ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
Because they are independent. I’ve seen a number of attorneys step into this on both sides. So ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
vidar_waits
Posted 2003-09-04
<<Because they are ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
JohnSeehagen
Posted 2003-09-03
Sorry but in what way can you base a conclusion on what financial analysts say about the case? A ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
lundbergaj
Posted 2003-09-03
The problem the open source community has with SCO is that they appear to be using their claim ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
They (SCO) actually have an impressive war chest at this point and are profitable, both of which ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
stend
Posted 2003-09-04
> They (SCO) actually have an impressive ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
> They (SCO) actually have an impressive war ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
vidar_waits
Posted 2003-09-03
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
That's because the side letter that I read only released IBM from "concepts" not ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
> That's because the side letter that I read ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
stend
Posted 2003-09-04
> That's because the side letter that I ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
vidar_waits
Posted 2003-09-04
And I quote from Exhibit C on SCO's ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
mec_2
Posted 2003-09-04
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
whoever
Posted 2003-09-03
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
linuxra
Posted 2003-09-03
>>The other day I was asked what the odds were that SCO would win against IBM. On the ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
observer387
Posted 2003-09-03
It's interesting to read another view of the SCO fuss. But you seem to be ignoring most of the ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
redbluff67
Posted 2003-09-03
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
fmalita
Posted 2003-09-04
And what's a better metric to evaluate a case's merit than the way parties are behaving and ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
Kelledin
Posted 2003-09-02
First and foremost: ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
Only one comment on this, they don't have to prove anything to the Linux community which likely ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
JohnOz
Posted 2003-09-11
The other outcome of the situation is that if SCO wins, they get 3 billion dollars from IBM and ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
Kelledin
Posted 2003-09-03
> Only one comment on this, they don't have to prove ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
flatlander03
Posted 2003-09-03
>at least some legal departments appear to find their arguments ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
exposeu
Posted 2003-09-03
"If you are right, they will lose, if you are wrong and haven't prepared yourself or your ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
jonabbey
Posted 2003-09-03
"Only one comment on this, they don't have to prove anything to the Linux community which ...
I read the contracts too. Where did it say that?!?!?
allankim
Posted 2003-09-02
I have read every single line of SOFT-00015 and amendments as submitted to the court. I have no ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
nathanh
Posted 2003-09-02
Another anti-Linux piece from Rob Enderle. Oh sure, Rob has been writing about Linux "on ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
glennthigpen
Posted 2003-09-02
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
Interesting post and it looks like you did a lot of work. Wish others had done the same. I don’t ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
> Interesting post and it looks like you did a ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
glennthigpen
Posted 2003-09-04
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-05
I've noticed the same thing, Bob doesn't seem to be able to defend his position with ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
stend
Posted 2003-09-04
> I don’t think we disagree on Copyright it ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
exposeu
Posted 2003-09-05
Rob, I'd really like to hear your response to this from www.copyright.gov since it completely ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
OzRoy
Posted 2003-09-03
'The real question is “was Linux from scratch or did it borrow from UNIX” as SCO claims and ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
whoever
Posted 2003-09-03
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
> Remember SCO's own statements that contracts ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-02
I think you may have missed some relevant ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
SteadyClimber
Posted 2003-09-02
A couple ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
A couple of things, first they didn’t get the patents from Novell because AT&T still owned ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
stend
Posted 2003-09-04
> You are right innocent people may respond ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
> The "BSD folks" shouldn't be resting ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
tsudhonimh
Posted 2003-09-02
"This is because the ideas that surround the product are also ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
jfkfj4
Posted 2003-09-02
Here's how I see ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
heimdal
Posted 2003-09-02
Well, I too have read the contracts. That is why I sincerely believe that SCO does not have much ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
treadlightlee
Posted 2003-09-02
...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
Honestly, this isn't the path I'd take either. But do think that the system needs to see more of ...
I've read the contracts too
heimdal
Posted 2003-09-02
There is a side letter between IBM and AT&T that to my eye says that IBM owns the right to ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
rishikesh1
Posted 2003-09-02
The claim that ideas are SCO's are completely ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
Maybe, while I’m clearly not an attorney I did write a number of the contracts that IBM used in ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
stend
Posted 2003-09-04
> One thing is clear if they could get it ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
> I did write a number of the contracts that ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
exposeu
Posted 2003-09-03
"I did write a number of the contracts that IBM used in the same time frame as the AT&T ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
joeklein
Posted 2003-09-03
By even saying there is a "cloud" over IBM is to assume that SCO is right. If you ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
harkonlukas
Posted 2003-09-02
Well no offense, Rob, but this is actually about more than just IBM possibly being sneaky. It's ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
RobEnderle
Posted 2003-09-03
Is it? What I find interesting is this is both not an uncommon position and one that was derived ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
JohnOz
Posted 2003-09-11
IBM started this ruckus IF and only IF they actually did anything wrong. This has yet to be ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
stend
Posted 2003-09-04
> As far as I can tell IBM started this ruckus. ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
cypherpunks
Posted 2003-09-04
What are you talking about? IBM DID buy the rights to Unix, they bought them from AT&T - ...
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality
voss749
Posted 2003-09-03
Rob, Im surprised the issue of SCOs own behavior pre-lawsuit hasnt been raised...even putting ...

Print Version E-Mail Article Reprints More by Rob Enderle   RSS

Related Resources

Don't miss a story -- sign up for our FREE e-mail newsletters and view the latest headlines at a glance.
Tech News Flash [ View Sample ]
E-Commerce Minute [ View Sample ]
ECT News Network Weekly Newsletter [ View Sample ]