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CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense

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The CyberRebate debacle reflects the classic tale of e-commerce itself: The initial bubble grew and grew and grew and then burst because everyone who got a small nibble wanted more.


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There's an old saying about kicking a person when he or she is down, but I can't remember how it goes, so here is my take on the people who are crying over the thousands of dollars in rebates they never got from CyberRebate.com: You got exactly what you deserved.

Frankly, it's beyond me how the deal ever sounded like a good one, or more to the point, one that could be sustained long-term. The temptation for free or cheap stuff must have been strong, but paying up front? How many things do you pay extra for up front on the promise, made by some invisible person behind a fancy Web site, that you'll get it all and more back.

This is not to deflect blame from the brain trust at CyberRebate. The word now is that its business model counted on a number (a large number?) of people not ever applying for rebates. It's safe to say they misread human nature.

Nor is it worthwhile to poke fun, without any purpose, at people who are out a lot of money.

But the level of scrutiny applied to CyberRebate's business model, by both its creators and its consumers, typifies why so many e-commerce companies have had to die painful, public deaths. Common sense went and took another vacation day.

Lured In (Like Fish)

The fact is that CyberRebate worked, for a while. And another fact is that many of its consumers were smart enough to be skeptical initially, giving their trust over to CyberRebate over time and not all at once.

They bought small items and held their breath. And when the rebate checks appeared in their mailboxes, they felt the warm glow of getting a bargain and the smugness that comes with thinking they're better than everyone else.

Then they got greedy. And then, finally, they got their just rewards.

Sound familiar? This is of course the classic tale of e-commerce as the initial bubble grew and grew and grew and then burst. Everyone who got a small nibble wanted more.

Slow-Motion Replay

Venture investors who had one successful IPO wanted a dozen and threw money around to make it happen. Private investors chased stocks up beyond reasonable levels, fueled by jealousy toward their neighbors who bought Amazon a week after it went public.

And e-commerce companies spent blindly in much the same way: Remember the old belief that regardless of how much you paid to acquire a customer up front, it would be worth it in the long run? Does anybody still believe that?

Of course, it's human nature to hope, and so hoping that a US$50 rebate check will lead to a $500 rebate check is one thing. To actually count on it happening, though, is something else.

Make Someone Pay

Already, however, the cry has gone up to make someone else pay. The credit card companies should take responsibility, some have argued. After all, they pick up the tab when someone gets ripped off, or in some cases, even when something gets damaged or stolen.

But that didn't happen here. Frankly, I'd like to see one of the red-faced rebate chasers go before a judge -- or better yet a jury -- to explain why they paid $1,500 for a printer that could be bought elsewhere for $150.

There is another saying that I remember pretty well and in totality: There's no such thing as a free lunch. To believe otherwise requires a certain level of self-deception. And to blame anyone else is to refuse to leave that dream world even after it crumbles.

What do you think? Let's talk about it.


Note: The opinions expressed by our columnists are their own and do not necessarily reflect the views of the E-Commerce Times or its management.

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Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Mainer1
Posted 2002-11-27
I'm sorry CyberRebate went out of business. I did over $2000 worth of business with them last ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Survived
Posted 2001-12-13
I feel like I've been to Vegas and back. It's generally a loss. It's true that it feels like a ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Paul
Posted 2001-08-08
Skeptical when first saw CR site - suspected con. Decided to "test the waters" 10 m ago w 2 ...
Re: urbanq.com (free clothing)
Stacey
Posted 2001-06-26
Watch out for urbanq.com (free clothing site) as it will undoubtedly have the same problem as ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
E. Westbrook
Posted 2001-05-28
Mr. Regan - I was very careful when I began purchasing items from Cyberrebate.com last Spring. ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
LoriA702
Posted 2001-05-25
I find it pretty funny that I am not able to locate my post or "letter to the editor" regarding ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
m
Posted 2001-05-24
To the article author ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Jed Login
Posted 2001-05-23
I have been considering your advice to apply common sense especially to products that are free ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
JLB
Posted 2001-05-23
Is that a picture of Lemmings with your article? ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Jed Login
Posted 2001-05-23
CyberRebate.com paid checks out to me like clockwork for almost 2 years. Please tell me what is ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Contra
Posted 2001-05-23
"Stir emotions and get readership"? ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Jed Login
Posted 2001-05-23
It seems like you are suggesting that we should no longer trust Bizrate.com, Trust-e ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Mark
Posted 2001-05-24
Come on people, these types of Pyramid schemes have been around hudreds of years before the web. ...
You show a real ignorance of the issue!(cont.)
Iyad
Posted 2001-05-23
(Cont. from previous reply) ...
Does anyone think we will recover anything?
Teresa
Posted 2001-05-31
Second guessing is not getting me anywhere? That is like a Monday morning Quarterback? ...
Re: You show a real ignorance of the issue!(cont.)
Chong
Posted 2001-05-23
I am also appalled that e-commerce Times allowed such an article to be published. ...
You show a real ignorance of the issue!
Iyad
Posted 2001-05-23
- Cyberrebate was a partner with many reputable web sites such as Yahoo and others. They had ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
David
Posted 2001-05-23
You 'victims' crack me up. Take responsibility for your actions, however justified they may have ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Jerry
Posted 2001-05-23
Well, I guess we should all stop purchasing thigs at CompUSA.com, OfficeMax.com, Staples.com, ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Joe
Posted 2001-05-23
David, ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
David
Posted 2001-05-25
Where is the calculated risk in something for nothing? Try W-O-R-K. Anything worthwhile takes ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Greene
Posted 2001-05-23
I think it is mean-spirited and harsh of this author to attack consumers who bought into a ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Nick
Posted 2001-05-23
I am amazed at your audacity to tell us we got what we deserved!! ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
John Pupkin
Posted 2001-05-22
So what the author is effectively saying is that he knew all along that cyberrebate was a scam, ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Joy
Posted 2001-05-23
I was raised to live beneath my means and became quite savvy regarding rebates, coupons, etc. I ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Ruth
Posted 2001-05-23
Maybe you should spend your efforts into helping CyberRebate fraud victims. But ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Marc Bayram
Posted 2001-05-22
I read the author's article and I wish that he was cyberscamed so he could understand where we ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Carla
Posted 2001-05-23
It is wrong to blame the victim of any crime and state "they got what they deserve". Nobody ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Thomas Ho
Posted 2001-05-23
I found out about this article at the MSN Community: ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Janna
Posted 2001-05-23
I've never bought anything from CyberRebate, always resisting the advice of a friend who is now ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
melinda
Posted 2001-05-23
Oh yes, mr. smarty pants thinks he knows it all...plenty of smart people bought into Cyberrebate ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
marty
Posted 2001-05-23
Where I get confused in all this is the way CR buyers feel that they are in some way a "victim". ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Jerry
Posted 2001-05-23
The comment about Montgomery Ward obviously comes from a person who awoke one day to see that MG ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Kally
Posted 2001-05-23
As an internet consumer, I search for value, attempt to research products, do price comparisons, ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Rabbit1126
Posted 2001-05-23
Does anyone have the hard numbers on the savings that were supposed to come from CyberRebate? ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Janna
Posted 2001-05-23
Let me unconfuse you Thomas. (Disclaimer: I have never bought anything from CyberRebate nor did ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
blast
Posted 2001-05-23
So I suppose if someone walks into CompUSA and buys a hard drive with a $100 rebate and they ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
tonie
Posted 2001-05-23
But ultimately who should pay? The consumer that got scammed or the credit card company that ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Cheryl
Posted 2001-05-25
Who's going to pay? The customer! Not only for merchandise that was guaranteed a 100% rebate ...
Re: CyberRebate's Real Victim: Common Sense
Thomas Ho
Posted 2001-05-24
Here's an article: ...

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