Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | joeblah |
| But if what your saying is true about having ownership of an idea, then couldn't IBM sue clone ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | jkondis |
| Is it just me, or is there a clear difference between the writing styles in the ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | jgoemat |
| Unbiased article? Give me a break... What no one seems to be thinking about is SCO trying to ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | Caine |
How's this for an analogy, going with someone's gangster analogy. Let's say that IBM is the ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | MurrayB |
| Thank you Mr. Enderle for providing an all too rare balanced view of this situation. Some IT ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
| 'Thank you Mr. Enderle for providing an all too rare balanced view of this situation. Some IT ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | JohnOz |
| While I agree that there are a number of Open Source proponents out there with blinders on and ... |
This is amusing | cypherpunks |
| Since http://www.sco.com has linked this story from their main page, somebody coincidentally ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | vasarik |
This is by far the best unbiased analysis I have seen of the situation so far. Further more, ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
| "It's about time someone has given a real and logical overview of the SCO Wars. I have had ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | captwatto |
| It's about time someone has given a real and logical overview of the SCO Wars. I have had many ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | imorse |
| Rob, You miss the point. There are pragmatic open source types like myself who believe that ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | tom1000000 |
Mr Rob Enderle, Your article shows clear bias and is full of unsubstansiated ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | larsB |
Hello Rob, Apparently you want to say that SCO might have a case. Personally I doubt ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | nene |
| I'm from Germany, so maybe the difference within the legal systems between the US and Germany ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | kjelland |
Hi ! have i missed something here have SCO actually proved some of its alligations ? And i ... |
Patents, evidence and conlusion? | LinuxCrunchie |
| The ideas and concepts you're referring to are called patents. SCO has none of those (at least ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | tungtung |
Dear Rob, I hardly know where to begin criticizing your Linux comments. You seem like a nice ... |
What theft? | flatlander03 |
| SCO hasn't proved that any theft has occurred. Any code that they've shown off has either been ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | dsettanni |
| A careful analysis will point out that the AT&T license that protects against the kind of ... |
There WAS no DDOS of attack | cypherpunks |
| The supposed DDOS attack has taken place only during off hours: i.e. on the weekends and during ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | exposeu |
A few flaws: "SCO and its legal team continue to bet the farm that they will ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | nobby69 |
I don't think the harry potter analogy is quite right. Here's a better analogy:[p] o JK ... |
story founders on the word "seems" | hipparchus |
| There are many of us (linuxen) who have never said it is ok to steal. However, if someone says ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | dclayton2 |
| I imagined that SCO might have some wierd strategy and now we know. In some alternate reality ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | sinp |
| So approximately 200 lines were copied from system V to linux and than there are some million ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | sinp |
Aha, seems like IBM & lines copied from system V to linux are two separate issues. IBM ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | jstorch |
| Your analogy to Harry Potter is flawed. We're certainly not talking about an entire volume ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | JIMMYDORSEY |
| You have made me think, and in all reality when it comes to court and heaven forbid, a jury of ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| Your last comment is the most interesting, because regardless of the outcome this case will ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | JohnOz |
| What judges like even less than being blasted is people who try their case in the press. Do you ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
> Your last comment is the most interesting, because > regardless of the outcome this ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | stend |
> in breaking this license IBM may be opening up > its own intellectual property in ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | nabet |
| All of what you've said here is pure unsupported speculation. You seem to think SCO will win ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | matE1 |
Rob, Did SCO pay you for this article? This has to be one of the worst ever articles I have ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | joeklein |
| First of all, why are financial analysts swaying your opinion on a LEGAL case? There is plenty ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| Because they are independent. I’ve seen a number of attorneys step into this on both sides. So ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | vidar_waits |
<<Because they are independent.>> You mean like Jonathan Cohen, the 'analyst' ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | JohnSeehagen |
| Sorry but in what way can you base a conclusion on what financial analysts say about the case? A ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | lundbergaj |
| The problem the open source community has with SCO is that they appear to be using their claim ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| They (SCO) actually have an impressive war chest at this point and are profitable, both of which ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | stend |
> They (SCO) actually have an impressive war > chest at this point . $10m in ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
> They (SCO) actually have an impressive war chest > at this point and are profitable, ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | vidar_waits |
Rob, You claim to have read the original contract between AT&T and IBM, but you seem to ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| That's because the side letter that I read only released IBM from "concepts" not ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
> That's because the side letter that I read only > released IBM from ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | stend |
> That's because the side letter that I read > only released IBM from ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | vidar_waits |
And I quote from Exhibit C on SCO's site: "we agree that modifications and derivative ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | mec_2 |
Rob, . The side letter I read is Exhibit C in SCO's suit, available ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | whoever |
Rob, But the IBM/ATT contract cannot be applied to a third party. It only affects ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | linuxra |
| >>The other day I was asked what the odds were that SCO would win against IBM. On the ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | observer387 |
| It's interesting to read another view of the SCO fuss. But you seem to be ignoring most of the ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | redbluff67 |
Rob . You are making the classic outsider's mistake of assuming that the IBM case ties in ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | fmalita |
| And what's a better metric to evaluate a case's merit than the way parties are behaving and ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | Kelledin |
First and foremost: IANAL. > SCO and its legal team continue to bet the farm that they ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| Only one comment on this, they don't have to prove anything to the Linux community which likely ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | JohnOz |
| The other outcome of the situation is that if SCO wins, they get 3 billion dollars from IBM and ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | Kelledin |
> Only one comment on this, they don't have to prove anything > to the Linux community ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | flatlander03 |
>at least some legal departments appear to find their arguments compelling. Those legal ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | exposeu |
| "If you are right, they will lose, if you are wrong and haven't prepared yourself or your ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | jonabbey |
| "Only one comment on this, they don't have to prove anything to the Linux community which ... |
I read the contracts too. Where did it say that?!?!? | allankim |
| I have read every single line of SOFT-00015 and amendments as submitted to the court. I have no ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | nathanh |
| Another anti-Linux piece from Rob Enderle. Oh sure, Rob has been writing about Linux "on ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | glennthigpen |
Rob, I have read both this article and your previous article concerning the SCO vs IBM fracas ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| Interesting post and it looks like you did a lot of work. Wish others had done the same. I don’t ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
> Interesting post and it looks like you did a lot > of work. Wish others had done the ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | glennthigpen |
Rob, I have been reading your responses to the different posters and I have noticed that you ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
| I've noticed the same thing, Bob doesn't seem to be able to defend his position with ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | stend |
> I don’t think we disagree on Copyright it does > protect the expression of ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | exposeu |
| Rob, I'd really like to hear your response to this from www.copyright.gov since it completely ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | OzRoy |
| 'The real question is “was Linux from scratch or did it borrow from UNIX” as SCO claims and ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | whoever |
Rob, You have ignored the possiblity that companies that sign SCO's new license agreement ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
> Remember SCO's own statements that contracts are > very powerful. . SCO's exact ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
I think you may have missed some relevant facts. First - there is likely to be NO Denial of ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | SteadyClimber |
A couple points: Regarding SCO being "the same company" as friendly underdog ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| A couple of things, first they didn’t get the patents from Novell because AT&T still owned ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | stend |
> You are right innocent people may respond like > this too, my experience is that ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
> The "BSD folks" shouldn't be resting easy, > because SCO has been making ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | tsudhonimh |
"This is because the ideas that surround the product are also protected." You are ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | jfkfj4 |
Here's how I see it. Say I sell yogurt. Another yogurt fellow comes along and says ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | heimdal |
| Well, I too have read the contracts. That is why I sincerely believe that SCO does not have much ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | treadlightlee |
Rob, I sincerely agree that any attacks/threats against SCO, sco.com, or its CEOs are ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| Honestly, this isn't the path I'd take either. But do think that the system needs to see more of ... |
I've read the contracts too | heimdal |
| There is a side letter between IBM and AT&T that to my eye says that IBM owns the right to ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | rishikesh1 |
The claim that ideas are SCO's are completely wrong. NUMA, JFS are not SCO's. They do not ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| Maybe, while I’m clearly not an attorney I did write a number of the contracts that IBM used in ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | stend |
> One thing is clear if they could get it killed, > with the cancellation of AIX, they ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
> I did write a number of the contracts that IBM > used in the same time frame as the ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | exposeu |
| "I did write a number of the contracts that IBM used in the same time frame as the AT&T ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | joeklein |
| By even saying there is a "cloud" over IBM is to assume that SCO is right. If you ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | harkonlukas |
| Well no offense, Rob, but this is actually about more than just IBM possibly being sneaky. It's ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | RobEnderle |
| Is it? What I find interesting is this is both not an uncommon position and one that was derived ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | JohnOz |
| IBM started this ruckus IF and only IF they actually did anything wrong. This has yet to be ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | stend |
> As far as I can tell IBM started this ruckus. If > they had bought the rights to ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | cypherpunks |
| What are you talking about? IBM DID buy the rights to Unix, they bought them from AT&T - ... |
Re: SCO vs. IBM: The Other Reality | voss749 |
| Rob, Im surprised the issue of SCOs own behavior pre-lawsuit hasnt been raised...even putting ... |